Oh and seeing as how I'm not in Amway - of course life will be better down the road! Yup the life of an Amway Ambot is to lie, deny, distract, defend, and then disappear.Though maybe that was Theo who popped in last week. The rest they got from selling business tools (supposedly at cost; that is certainly what they told us). Dang, sounds like a sure thing to me.Cassette Tape. This is just sad ambitious or not. Save big with the world's largest selection of diamonds. LOL! returns to play new Ranger character. Then U R SILVER. You have to buy monthly membership to what ever cult sect you're part of like WWDB call it $50. He would make a good salesman like you said, and he didn't even went to college! LOL!!!! And if I were you I wouldn't go around mentioning you know Amway losers because people are going to think you're a fucking Amway loser too. The text of Amway Wiki is copyrighted (automatically, under the Berne Convention) by TribeTech AB and Amway Wiki's editors and contributors. I keep getting fucking Amway assholes showing up here and leaving comments that Im broke even though Im very careful with my money. Ive witnessed this my whole life. They defend Amway as being a multi-billion dollar company, not taking into account that they got that rich off the backs of their poorly commissioned sales people self-consuming the horribly over-priced products and going out and recruiting others to do the same. That rule of course only applies to Ambots. but the moral of the post is that if I help you make $4000/month The Amway corporation will pay me $850/month, now what is bad about that? The current page will be reloaded with this account info. They were going to continue, and if Amway didn't like it Amway could fuck off. Also buy monthly for your "personal assistant" LOL Communikate, around $35 or $40. Hence this blog doesn't take long to read guess not many commenting parties. Financing available . Not everyone needs to be billion aires.When people join and leave their permanent jobs, that is their own risk and only they are to blame if they get financial issues.lastly why cant people still work if they are diamonds? and now i am 6%achiever. Comments are moderated but we publish just about everything. In fact most uplines will say. Regarding the percentage of Alticors revenue that comes from Amway, a few years back (dont have a link handy sorry), the media reported Alticors non-Amway holdings as doing around $100 million. Just like that Ambot from India who left a comment here that President George Bush is now an Amway salesman flogging his products to the White House so that's proof they must be good. (a) no, nothing like 1500000, you dont understand correctly (b) yes its hard work, if you can suggest a job or other casual business that allows you to bring in around $50000/yr in profit, part-time, within a coule of years, while simultaneously creating an income producing asset, then please share. Not everyone who signs up makes it, its all about how much effort you put. Looks good on paper but putting the Amway bored plan into action is another story because its real hard to find one person to sign up for Scamway let alone 2 or 6 or 100. I feel for the other unfortunate souls that got hooked into this scam. I however agreed to meet his guy or I guess what you would call his upline, according to this blog. I found it when (probably in 1999) I was looking for the New Zealand Amway web site which, for some reason best known to themselves, was no longer amway.co.nz. Amway is vastly different.. You got it Sprigsleg. If your wife is an artist you'd think she could switch over to sell her wares on Etsy. LOL! could you explain more about amway. Now $150,000 sounds like a lot of money to young people or to those with lower wage types of jobs, or those who are just starting out in their careers. You know like the chocolate that comes in those calendars this time of year that you can buy for under a dollar.I thought it was a month to get your money back but maybe it is 90 days. But of course it didn't. Can't say Amway and honest in the same sentence can you without laughing! And invest. Amwayers use to say, once a direct always a direct. By his admition, he's only been in that business 3 years. Hello frank, That goes with any type of business. At the 50th Anniversary celebrations in Ada, Michigan last week Steve Van Andel reported there were 544 currently qualifying Founders Executive Diamondsand above businesses in attendance, and there were reportedly over 4000 currently qualifying Diamond and above IBOs (so around 2000 IBOships)in Las Vegas. How many women out there would buy such a product?Yeah I'd say keep it. What if staying where I am WILL fulfill my dreams? When you are Teamed up with the right team that actually cares about you, and builds your business because when you succeed then they succeed. That did happen in our upline and it affected our business and drive to even actively pursue it. I don't know what made you guys so bitter, But it really seems like you have no idea what you're talking about. There seems to be a lot of this going around lately. One or two and maybe it is a fluke. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. But they like to show up here and show their outrage that people are getting the truth out there of the financial and emotional distress Amway brings to their lives. Holy fuck are you ever a bad little Ambot! See Amway.com/income-disclosure for details. Things never change in Amway except with the Internet ordering now and getting shipped to the house instead of having to haul over to some upline's house to pick up your Amway shit. In other words, a diamond is downline from another diamond. Amway is not a scam - but you can still be scammed. Avon closing in Australia and New Zealand, 15 consecutive months of growth for Amway North America. Get suckered into a Scamway meeting, pull out your phone and surf right over here. Ambots can get angry, but they can't argue. Surely they are on the tape list, right? From what I've seen of Amway Diamonds they live beyond their means. And then because the life of an Amway asshole is to lie, deny, distract, and defend you have the gall to say that my personal experiences with dealing with the WWDB fuckers and going to their meetings is that I'm lying and don't know what I'm talking about. of more than 1400 Amway Diamonds and above. You support restaurants don't you? They wouldn't have sunk into poverty, though, because they'd wisely invested their income and (at l east while we were distributors) they didn't live a flashy lifestyle. Now, the company has become the No. Anna. look at any person with any significant success and you'll always here stories of people that Todd then to quit, but the common denominator with all successful people they ignored them and kept going. After the meeting, they asked me what I thought and I politely told them that I was not interested in Amway. I don't really check out lip glosses much so idk if the retail value is appropriate. You are right on to the tee of your critical assessment of Amway. Almost nobody finds success without a few major lapses in judgment along the way. Lies, double-speak, "fake it til you make it", tricks and bullshit to reel someone in and get them plugged into the "motivational" (brainwashing) system to make them "dream" instead of THINK and do the math. It is noticeable that Mrs Banana post is biased with a lot of anger for an individual case. When your Amway up-line tells you that you don't have to bother making actual sales to retail customers, alarm bells should go off immediately in your brain!Those alarm bells should tell you: "This company isn't concerned with product quality, or even with product movement. Until the motivational tool scam is dealt with, Amway will not live up to its promise. I'm with you. Not bad money, but the sales organizations sell a mammoth sized lie. I did my own research and i did find that yes some "diamonds" go broke by spending money that isnt there. I have been looking for an Amway INA diamond to be sponsored by for three years now. Bad evil people like those in Amway the Cult of Greed go around treating people badly and then justify themselves as being Christians. Thank you for clarifying misconceptions about a legit business like Amway. They of course made it seem like they were living the "dream." Find a way to make extra money and invest it.If you're inside the Amway cult, the cult leaders will tell you to "invest" you money back in Amway buying shitty overpriced products and investing in the tool scam.Normal people know to invest in real estate or stocks or classic cars or what have you. Cya at my McDonald's Anna :p. Theo - OMG. Shouldn't the FTC know that they are LYING about the income of this opportunity? They have an income"No they don't. AWA recommends new pin levels as Distributors flock to the opportunity and leaders build growth. So, if you figure if Amway did half the revenue of Alticor, that would only financially support 361 diamondships (worldwide). Show us how core you are. When it comes to people in Amway you can't be polite. With so many going to functions this is surely nice income. Thanks! You're going to earn the $84, you're not going to retire in 2-5 years. How many IBOs have come in here claiming they know someone who makes "gazillions'? They're in the past. Actually I'm wrong. However, if he were to claim that he owned the Apple stock for more that one month, he's saying that he purchased 1,000 shares of a stock whose value ranged between $300 and $600 per share over the three years that he's been in business. Amway Diamonds made only $150,000 a year in 2013? I bet those Diamonds are gonna be hauling coal in hell and then we'll see how positive they are then! I almost busted a gut laughing. They built Amway on the belief that business ownership improves lives through personal achievement and the opportunity to earn income. Amway is all about fake it till you make it. Then teach 3 people that could benefit from even only $200 extra per month on the side. URA?Or are you going to run and hide, realizing you have made a dangerously invalid remark, with a face attached?-Jerry, You guys shut the hell up you all are broke and if you check the stats Amway is rated much higher than your jobs and it had help more people become financially free. It didn't let me reply to my other comment so im posting a new one.Anyway, the lipgloss he gave me was kind of cool. One is for a free ebook called Merchants of Deception and that will spell out to you exactly what life inside Amway is like. It's their way or nothing at all. Anonymous - you'd think after all these decades those Ambots could come up with more original lines! 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While technically it is possible Id say in reality it is not possible from a standing start. Around here we're not dumb fucks who go around reading stuff that doesn't interest us or might otherwise piss us off. The latest bullshit Amway Amspeak propaganda.Yup one of the biggest lies Amway Ambots spout is how everything is awesome. However, let's not forget the money one makes selling books and CDs and tickets to various functions. Working 7 days a week non stop. All still alive and well! The Top 27 Amway Diamond Success Stories Now that we've got that out of the way, here are my Amway Diamond Success Stories # 27: Robert and Lois Stonelake The Stonelake's helped put Amway on the map. He claimed he's not valid to disclose the information, he however gave me the name of his "mentor" and a bottle of perfect water. Would you like to share this work plan to grow so highly with me as a help. Gokaiger cast member M.A.O. They asked me if I wanted freedom and told me I would be an idiot to pass this "opportunity" up again. Then why show up here and do it? And i know it costed him like 10 bucks for it haha..Also, they did give me a protein bar sample which they said costs 3$ per bar. Please check your Minimum Browser Requirements. And why must they only do amway and sit at home on their asses?American sport stars have the same lifestyle as diamonds.. earn a fortune for a few years and then they get too old at 35. Hi Vikas, No one is guaranteed 6 figure income just because they join. You know the correct income and Amway's head office is way off base by a half a million. Racist/bigoted comments? 1 direct selling company in the world*. Funny. Well, if it's so great, what the hell are you waiting for? Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.7. Not quite what the ambots had in mind when they show up here thus the many angry comments they leave behind. The other 5% will be broke losers forever except for a tiny percentage who are the best liars and the best scammers and have no morals and conscience and they will make some money at Scamway. 4:45AM Anon?!? No. We are a training system on how to build the amway business to a truly significant level. You missed the part about how good little Amway ambots never say negative. Osu? A Q-12 platinum (lets assume 10K PV) runs at minimum $360K annually. Thats something i'll never be able to say. Bring emotional and financial devastation to everyone they touch. Vicky - are you trying to tell us your ex-lover is a lying cheating scamming Amway Diamond and you want that fucker back? Anonymous - the good thing is 95% of Amway IBO's quit within 2 years so the average is on the side of your nephew. Free trips? Your mother sounds exactly like me and so many other women who are married to ambots. I have a friend that's with Amway. At least Anna is working to persuade others NOT to embark on that journey to hell. !if u have not done anything in your life then dont be frusteted because Amway is the only way to get every thing in your life which you deserves. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. Thats to Amway and other MLM business, common people can take part of the billion dollar industry of distribution. Glad you're enjoying the blog. T.Mitchell@katewwdb.comHave a nice day;~Tyler Mitchell~. but did you act upon them? Hope you're into horror tales!Run, don't walk, as far away as you can from anyone in Amway. Or as you put it there's a lying sack of shit born every minute. in order to support 4000 diamonds, the annual volume of amway would have to be 66 billion. I signed up and even tried to work it, but that wasn't good enough. People have enough of the Amway bullshit. They couldnt stop, of course. A customer buys the Amway products for themselves, no matter what their pseudo business card says. The only question is how much emotional and financial damage will Scamway cause before he quits. Diamond do make 150K a year FROM AMWAY. As reported on this site several weeks ago, UK & ROI Amway Diamonds affiliated with IBS, Jerry & Mandy Scriven, Pat & Greta Gregory, and Dave Butler had not been offered renewed contracts with the "new" Amway.Amway itself confirmed this with a posting on the Amway media blog entitled IBS Unplugged.. Jerry and Mandy Scriven have now responded with a well written and well supported letter on . Nonsense. Kyle - Amway ambots judge everybody who is not in Amway so this is our little spot on the web where we can just people in Amway. There's an article written by a psychologist that we sometimes reference a link to and he got conned into an Amway meeting and he said people's dreams are usually nothing out of the ordinary - they want to buy a house, go on a nice vacation, etc. It only suggests you could be if you work hard at it.If it only provides $1000 or 2000 per month extra, that should already be awesome. And they taste better. Nonsense. Amway is a complete fraud!Its kind of like who blinks first. This group is allegedly responsible for helping over 500 distributors reach Diamond status in Amway. "Everything is awesome", Put this into Google Translate and even it shrugged it's shoulders in confusion. I've seen stories where they'll say "come to the seminar.. Because all those expenses I listed above, if you screw up and don't buy them the assholes in the Amway upline will give you a shit kicking and mock you at Amway meetings. I've fallen in love with a woman in Amway. They were probably shocked as well. Scam! If you know of a Diamond or past Diamond not listed, please . You may e-mail the information directly to ibofightback. Anonymous - you don't think Darnell its hilarious that many people have been financially and emotionally devastated by the Amway scam? But yeah its a nice mark up if you can brainwash Ambots to buy it ! 90% of restaurants fail, and people lose hundreds of thousands of dollars, wiping them out financially. Anonymous - its the old saying nothing in life is free. And it takes 10 years to qualify. Where else would you get that working 4 hours a week?recessions happen and effect more than just amway. Do you want to take business advice from someone whose business went bankrupt? "It must cost them a FORTUNE to have them recorded and copied." By the way 'anonymous from Nov 11' no money i spend goes to my upline. In Memoriam: Remembering Stars Who Passed Away From 2017-2018. www.bet.com. . But disobedient Amway Ambots refuse to believe this information from what they would call a trusted source LOL LOL LOL and search online to find other answers. Restaurant owners are scum! I think the 150 k is a gross figure. Guess which one is easier for us to do?9. THOUSANDS have spoken out over the years. But, perhaps Theo is still around to clarify his math. They don't disclose all the hidden costs to you. It is obvious that Anna is throwing his/her assumptions here and there and the only way he can evaluate Amway is by calling it names or using foul languages :D I believe you have better things to do with your life other than just sitting here replying everybody for more than a year Anna, let's not reply to me or anybody else and start to enjoy your life. Like you didn't have a better way to spend a Friday night! It has been much easier to work by far. The MLM Syndrome: Dr. Doe's Investigation into MLM CONditioning, MLM and The Ace Initiative Pt. 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